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Apostolic Summit 2024. Session 3

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As John Alley says, “We are Australian and we are civilised people. We do not skimp on morning tea.”

Morning tea is a good time to hang out with your mates, no matter how young they are.

After the break, Apostle John continued the teaching.

The soul is the command centre of the whole being. It is the soul that is either soaking in or rejecting.

The heart grows at the root of the soul. That is where the values are. The words of the mouth come from what is in the heart.

“The worth and excellency of a soul are to be measured by the object of its love .” Henry Scougal, The Life of God in the Soul of Man

What we love shows the value or worthiness of our soul.

Hebrews 4:12. The word of God is living and active.
We have to seek the word of the Lord
We read the word because we have a yearning to know the Lord.
While we are doing that, God intervenes in our hearts to remove the sins and thoughts that beset us

We need to seek ever increasing maturity in the Lord.

1 Peter 1:3-23
The prophets searched and inquired carefully but they received revelations in the searching.
We must not be conformed to the passions of our former ignorance. We must purify our souls by obedience to the truth. Love one another earnestly.

2 Peter 1:3-11
If we are diligent in pursuing the Lord, there will be richly provided for us an entrance into the eternal kingdom. If we do these things we will not fail.

Apostolic Summit 2024. Session 2

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In Session 2 of the Summit, Apostle John Alley spoke about what the Bible says about human nature. WE are body, soul and spirit. The bible speaks about the heart and the conscience. How do these all fit together?

When you are eager to promote a gift or idea, you need to make sure that you are not inadvertently undermining other important things. Example of a man who promoted miraculous signs but in doing so downplayed the teaching of the word.

Jn 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life ; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I speak are life

We are body, soul and spirit. Cannot separate the three.

1 Thess 5:23-24. “may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless

Heb, 4:12 Word of God divides soul and spirit.

What about words like heart, conscience, etc? How do they fit?

Soul- contains mind, memory, will, emotions
Body- 5 senses, pain, adrenalin, Gut, Chemicals, fitness, sickness
Lot of interaction between body and soul
Spirit- knowledge, memory, revelation, spiritual gifts, discernment, conscience, inner witness, emotion… your spirit can rejoice or have dread

We are designed with this complexity because we have to live in the spirit realm and the physical realm.

Lots of interaction between spirit and soul.

Unbelievers are dark in their spirit. They have a conscience for example. The spirit is alive but separated from God until they are born again.

God can speak to sinners. eg Cain.

Your spirit can be weak or strong, bound or free. We need to work on our relationship with God. Ephesians 3:14-16

Psalm 139. I am fearfully and wonderfully made.

Romans 2:14-16. Gentiles do not have the law, but their consciences lead them towards righteousness

2 Corinthians 4:2.The conscience provides the inner witness.

2 Corinthians 5:11 Conscience provides confirmation of Paul’s message

1 Timothy 4:1-3 A seared conscience.

The Heart

New heart when born again:

The heart is the sum of all the parts- body, soul, and spirit. It’s what is at the bottom of it all.

Our heart gives us longing for good things as well as sinful things. The Lord will give us the desires of our heart. That is why he tells us to fix our eyes on Jesus.

Romans 12:2. Be transformed by the renewing of the mind.

God looks at the heart.

Apostolic Summit 2022- Session 8

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Session 8- John Alley

The Call To Serve God

Abraham – go to a place you do not know.

Joseph – dreams, beaten up, sold into slavery.

Moses – burning bush. He didn’t want to go

David – minding sheep, prophet comes looking for him.

Jeremiah – you have a job to do. No choice!

Disciples – call comes out of the blue. “Come and follow me.”

Paul – “You will be told what you are to do.”

Five-fold ministry an anointing to receive directions from the Lord and to represent Him before the church.

Elders – five fold ministers with heart for the church in city or region.

Galatians 1:1. The call is from God, not man.

Apostolic Summit 2022- Session7

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Session 7- Paul Botha

John Alley

3 prayers before speaking

  1. Bind spirits
  2. Submit to Lord, not trusting own ability, previous success
  3. Pray for spirit of understanding to be on the church

Prophetic pain

  • Much of sickness, pain comes from our own thinking, allowing demons to pull us down.
  • Some comes from criticism, accusation etc.
  • Some is a message from the Lord, a call to prayer. Pain in the body is symbolic of something. Praying for healing won’t work. Find what the message is, pray into it.

Paul Botha

What he is doing is only possible because of the foundation laid by John and Peace.

Peace Church is not just an apostolic community but a prophetic voice also.

The days that are coming are going to be substantially different. The West is on the precipice of change. The church can either lead the process or be taken over by the change.

The church before Pentecost was praying but they woke up the next morning and everything was changed. Empowered to change the world

1.What is the Apostolic?

Primary gifting- first in function.

Struggle for identity for apostles and for the church

Regional transformation. John 4. Samaritan woman.

City Elders – functional unity

Unless the church understands the times and invades the culture the nation will be radically different.

Current move of God :

Reset– dining saloon changed to troop carrier

Reposition – – church is being repositioned for mission. Culture responds to the gospel. Not nice Christians, hot Christians.

Reap

What are we meant to do about it?

Develop Father and Son relationships with functioning apostles

Apostolic Summit 2022 – Session 6

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Session 6 – John Alley

Commission for this Summit is to revisit the core topics of Sonship and Community.

Central heart message of apostles will be about love.

1 Corinthians 13. Normal healthy apostolic life.

Need a major input of Grace that changes our heart.  Apostles are meant to help this happen.

Supernatural outpouring of love. Power to understand the length, breadth, depth, height of God’s love. This is the fullness of God.

5-fold work with apostles to raise church to relational maturity. Find the supernatural anointing of Holy Spirit that gives us greater love.

Chuck Clayton. Thoroughly unique. Full of love and wisdom. Made mistakes but God didn’t want John to make same mistakes.

Great prophet. Never felt anything so just talked and hoped it was God, but always accurate and powerful.

Great pastor. Loved people, pastors.

1 Thessalonians 1:2-5.  Paul walked in faith, hope and love. Known by his lifestyle. “You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake.”

Too much in minds of some pastors is the desire to be the “big man.” Heart of apostle is to be a servant. Apostle has to teach pastors how to serve.

1 Thessalonians 2:1-12   Don’t let courage fail you in strife. Don’t fail to tell the truth when others have different opinions. Like a mother, gentle, not the “big man.”

V. 8 Not here to sell a product. Apostle is there to share himself with them. Power is not in healing the sick, but power to change the heart. That is what apostles are here for. Progressive work over time.

V. 11. Only now does Paul mention fathers. It is a gentle, giving grace.

Anointing by which community is built. After John released this anointing the church was changed. Cell groups started working, relationships healed.

Need both the teaching and the anointing. Knowledge and power.

Signs and wonders do not make you an apostle. An apostle seeks an answer to people’s problems and signs and wonders follow. It is gentleness and love.

Apostolic Summit 2022- Session 5

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Session 5 – David Alley

What is apostolic message?

Apostolic message is not getting apostles back. It is about preaching the original message that the apostles taught.

People think they know what the Gospel is, but they don’t. We use the term apostolic to distinguish from institutional Christianity.

Where is it going?

To maturity! Doctrinal and relational.

Not about doctrinal purity. Love and accept one another even if we haven’t got the theology perfect.

The message helps us to attain place where we are one heart and one mind.

We need genuine apostles! Millions call themselves apostles. About 99% aren’t really apostles.

How do we know who the genuine apostles are?

No check list in Scripture

Heart test.

Revelation  2:1-2.

Jude 3-4,11

  1. Do they do it for God or themselves? (Cain)
  2. Do they have regard for brethren? (Cain)
  3. Are they promoting themselves? (Korah)
  4. Are they using the Lord to get money?

What do we need to do about it?

  1. Trust the apostles God has put in your life
  2. Give up your requirements to be recognised
  3. Make Prayer for the apostolic message regular part of your life.

Apostolic Summit 2022 Session 3

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Session 3 – John Alley

Every part of the Christian walk needs a revelation of the heart. Tithing, Communion, Baptism of Holy Spirit, Baptism. Sonship etc.

John’s experience. Baptism of Holy Spirit brought love and authority as well as tongues.

Conversion brings love, forgiveness. Still tied to world even though we are changed.

Healing. He knew that it was real, could preach about it. There was no power until he had a revelation of the heart. When he got the revelation, the power to heal came.

Not just revelation as information. Power or grace is received. Grace is power. They can’t be separated.

Anointing, power, Spirit, grace all talk about the same thing.

Don’t assume that you have all the love you can have. There is a ladder of love. Love that passes all understanding.

Moses could not enter the Promised Land. The Law cannot bring you to Christ, only Christ can do this.

As big as the Pentecostal movement has become, the apostolic movement is built on it and is already bigger.

Juan Carlos Ortiz. We call each other brother because we are not. We are all potatoes-he scrubs us to get the dirt off then he takes the skin off, then he puts us in a pot with a bunch of other potatoes, and turns the heat up. But he loves mashed potato- crushes us to make us one.

We need an extra work of grace that makes us one.

2002. Realised all of a sudden that he belonged to Chuck, Chuck belonged to him. The spirit of Sonship came in. From that moment, all the barriers were gone. “At home.”

Jesus’s Prayer, “Father make them one” was answered.

Need a father to give love, honour and service. Not about receiving teaching but giving heart.

Father Son Relationship is the new wineskin for the structure of the church. Note: this is the same new wineskin that has been here for 2000 years. It is the container that enables us to carry the Spirit. The old wineskin was Judaism. The new wineskin is the church. Father and Son is the life, the apostolic grace.

Start as servant, but become beloved friends.

There is no Sonship without the giving of the heart. There is no Christianity without the giving of the heart.

Apostolic Summit 2022- Session 2

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Session 2 – Darrell Roos

John Alley

What was it that made it possible for Elisha to receive double portion of Elijah’s spirit?

It was his longing for his spiritual father.

Cf. Paul’s longing to be with Timothy

I am here for him. He is not here for me.

Holiness, higher cleanness of heart, comes from our attitude to those who are over us in the Lord.

Darrell Roos

Everything is for, about and in Jesus.

Built a Cell church, but it imploded because it lacked an apostle.

He didn’t even know what an apostle was.

1994 asked Chris Peterson to be his apostle. Didn’t know about fathering, but he got it. Following year was asked to be AOG regional director. Didn’t want to but it was God.

Leaders accountable to Jesus for maturity of disciples. We have to have the apostles and prophets in the church, as well as the pastors, teachers, evangelists.

An apostle is both a general and a father.

Apostolic is not just about the apostle but about the heart of the people.

He did not understand sonship, but then started to see it everywhere in the Bible. He needed a spiritual father, but couldn’t find one. Began to believe it was not for him. Life changed when he realised Chris Peterson was a father to him.

2 Corinthians 11:2. Godly jealousy to present the church to Christ as a pure bride.

Many who were called to apostolic ministry but have turned back to re-embrace the pastoral model.

Mark 2:1-7. Paralytic lowed through the roof. Man got healed because the faith of 4 men. Like the 4 out of 5 fold ministry gifts. Need God to breathe on the apostles and raise them up.

Apostolic Summit 2022 – Session 1

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Session 1- John Alley

“Kingdom Culture” is a phrase that is often used but not defined. Claimed that apostles will bring “Kingdom Culture”.

Something is missing in much teaching about the apostolic. People want to be “as one” but not be one.

Kingdom Culture

Nation of priests

Priesthood – represents God to men, men to God, offers sacrifices.

Ex 19:6 you shall be to me a kingdom of priests.

Rev 1:6. He has made us a people and priests

1 Peter 2:9

The believers were one in heart and mind Acts 4:32.

We must love one another as God has commanded

The more excellent way is the way of love and is the heart of the apostolic message, and of Kingdom Culture

When you get apostolic grace you move into higher levels of love.

The purpose of the moves of Holy Spirit is to bring maturity of love.

Apostles are here to move church from institutional to relational basis. This is the central purpose of apostolic movement.

Restoration of apostles is about the restoration of the apostolic nature of the church. It’s not about what we do but about how we relate. Submission is central.

You cannot come to maturity in Christ without a revelation of love. Without love, spirit of sonship and community we cannot get close to fullness of Christ. The role of apostles is to help church find this perfect love.